Power standing wave null… solution

Power standing wave null… more left readers with “homework” to create the Pfwd and Prev traces.

Remember that Pfwd and Prev are interpretations in the context of some Zref of V and I and a point, and that \(P=P_{fwd}-P_{rev}=V_{fwd}I_{fwd}-V_{rev}I_{rev}\) is valid ONLY if Zref is purely real.

So let’s plot Pfwd and Prev wrt:

  • Nominal Ro (ie the real part of the nominal Zo of the RG58A/U at 10MHz);
  • 50Ω; and
  • 75Ω to demonstrate the effect of different contexts, ie Zref.

Above IndFwd50 and IndFwdRo are almost coincident (at 10MHz Nominal Ro is very close to 50Ω), as are IndRev50 and IndRevRo. IndFwd75 and IndRev75 are separated from the others. In all cases, the IndFwdxx-IndRevxx is equal to p.

Note that if Zref is close to the line Zo, the shape of Pfwd and Pref are essentially a logarithmic decay in the direction of wave travel with a small superimposed cyclic variation.

If Zref is quite different to line Zo, the exponential element still exists but with a much larger cyclic variation along the line.

Above is a model of load VSWR=10, and p, Pfwd and Prev wrt 50Ω, and there is still the exponential element and only a relatively small cycle variation.

So, from those we learn that if you were to insert a 50Ω directional wattmeter at various points along a nominal 50Ω line, even with high VSWR, there will be only a small cyclic variation with displacement  and the exponential decay will be more significant.

The cyan trace is the voltage along the line, and you may observe that the ratio of max to min near to load is almost 10, VSWR at the load is 10, but measuring the first peak brings a little line loss to bear. The solid magenta curve is 50 times the current (so that it is viewable under the right hand axis scaling).

So, under mismatch there may be a wide variation in voltage and current along the line, but that will not be so apparent on a directional wattmeter which responds to both current and voltage and is sensitive to their phase relationship.

A point for pondering

Noting that in this example there is a small standing wave (VSWR=2), and that whilst Matched Line Loss (MLL per meter is uniform along the line, loss under standing waves is not uniform along the line. So the ARRL graphs that give you (uniform) line loss under standing waves based on VSWR and MLL are unsound, they are an approximation based on usually unstated assumptions.

Downloads

The download below contains the original SimNEC model, and a revised one with the above calcs and traces added.

SWDisplacement.7z

Power standing wave null… more

Power standing wave null? discussed the “Power Standing Wave” concept unfolding on social media.

Already a correspondent has asked if the graphs given in Power standing wave null? can be replicated in SimNEC.

They can. The original Mathcad graphs were wrt displacement from the source along the line to the load, and the sign of displacement is -ve (consistent with the Telegraphers Equation). So, that requires a bit of manipulation in SimNEC, and because SimNEC does not allow us to sample a TL element at an arbitrary displacement, the following model uses two TL elements of overall length 30m, and by adjusting the length of each we can move the observation point (T1 input).

The calculations of lengths and power are visible in the popups. Continue reading Power standing wave null… more

Power standing wave null?

A social media posting in a very long thread with a lot of wooly thinking recently contained this explanation:

If you locate your power meter anywhere along the feedline other than at a POWER standing wave null, you will get a reading that is higher than the amount of power being delivered to the load.

A “Power Standing Wave”… hmmm, that is new to me.

The ensuing discussion may discuss this notion, probably in terms of lossless lines.

(Duffy 2008) develops several plots of interesting quantities with a load of 5+j50Ω on a length of RG58A/U using the  Telegraphers Equation.

Above is a plot from (Duffy 2008) Above shows P(x) vs displacement x, -ve x is on the source side of the load, at 10MHz with a load of 50+j50Ω where the modelled Zo is 50.4-j0.7Ω. Note that loss under mismatch is not uniform, the slope of P(x) varies with x. Continue reading Power standing wave null?

Try this quick quiz on directional wattmeters – answers

Directional wattmeters are used in lots of ham stations, yet we see evidence in social media posts that many people do not understand them and the measurement context.

We have an RF source connected via a Bird 43 directional wattmeter with an appropriate 50Ω measurement element directly to a load resistance.

We measure the load voltage to be 100Vrms and the current to be 1Arms.

1. What is the power in the load?

100W

2. What does the directional wattmeter indicate for Pfwd?

112.5W

3. What does the directional wattmeter indicate for Prev?

12.5W

What is the implied VSWR?

2

4. Can the load power in this scenario be ‘measured’ using this instrument?

Yes, since the calibration impedance is a purely real value, measure Pfwd and Pref and calculate P=Pfwd-Prev.

Any surprises there?

Explanations to follow in the coming days.

KL7AJ’s forward and reverse power challenge

Recently on QRZ, KL7AJ opened a thread recommending his own slide presentation entitled “SWR meters make you stupid”.

After more than 100 posts, one of the participants tried to understand this diagram for the presentation.

Now there may have been some discussion at the meeting where this was presented, giving details that are missing from the slides. Continue reading KL7AJ’s forward and reverse power challenge

Try this quick quiz on directional wattmeters

Directional wattmeters are used in lots of ham stations, yet we see evidence in social media posts that many people do not understand them and the measurement context.

We have an RF source connected via a Bird 43 directional wattmeter with an appropriate 50Ω measurement element directly to a load resistance.

We measure the load voltage to be 100Vrms and the current to be 1Arms.

  1. What is the power in the load?
  2. What does the directional wattmeter indicate for Pfwd?
  3. What does the directional wattmeter indicate for Prev?
  4. What is the implied VSWR?
  5. Can the load power in this scenario be ‘measured’ using this instrument?

Get your slide rules out, jot your answers down. My answers in a day or two…

Woolly thinking superposes power on transmission lines

Recently on social media, F6AWN cited a “document written by a team of engineers working in a company of 12,000 people devoting to perfecting power” which ended with the following formula:

The paper does not state that the phasors are RMS, RMS phasors, but it appears so… so let’s use like. Continue reading Woolly thinking superposes power on transmission lines

Analysis of a practical non resonant dipole scenario on 160m

Non-resonant dipole with two wire feed line and T match ATU discussed some of the issues with the common multi band configuration with emphasis on the lower bands where ATU losses can be sufficient to cause internal damage.

This article explores a scenario that came up in discussion with another ham.

His scenario is a moderately long dipole (just under λ/2) fed with a moderately long length of nominal 450Ω windowed ladder line… I am being obscure, but I don’t want to dwell on the details from that angle. This is not a case of someone loading up the roof rain gutters, or window frames, it is a serious antenna.

The chap is using a MFJ-941E ATU, which appears to use the same componentry as the MFJ-949E with which I am very familiar, the 941E appears to be a version of the 949E without internal dummy load.

So, he was able to get a good match easily using the internal balun (4:1 voltage balun), and from the settings we can estimate the matching and particularly the losses.

A model

I have separately come to a view that the Q of the 949E inductor at ‘A’ switch position is about 170 @ 1.8MHz. I also measured the magnetising impedance of the balun, it was 2.8+j350Ω @ 1.8MHz.

Above is a model capturing: Continue reading Analysis of a practical non resonant dipole scenario on 160m

Non-resonant dipole with two wire feed line and T match ATU

This article discusses a very popular HF antenna with hams, the non resonant dipole centre fed with two wire line. Some ‘experts’ call this a doublet, but their distinction is not captured in the IEEE Standard for Definitions of Terms for Antennas which considers doublet and dipole as equivalent.

Whilst these antennas can work well, remembering that all antennas “work” and “any antenna is better than no antenna”, is a deeper understanding useful?

As a basis for discussion, an NEC-4.2 model of a 60m centre fed dipole at 15m over ‘average ground’ (σ=0.005, εr=13) and 30m of lossless 400Ω VF=1 feedline was built. It is almost λ/2 at 160m, so might appeal as potentially useful down to 160m.

Above is the geometry of the example antenna.

 

Above is a Smith chart plot of Zin to the feed line from 1 to 30MHz, the cursor is at 1.9MHz, and this impedance 14.4-j181Ω will be used in the following discussion. Continue reading Non-resonant dipole with two wire feed line and T match ATU

K3EUI’s MyAntennas EFHW on 80m

Barry, K3EUI, posted some interesting measurements of his MyAntennas EFHW which he described with some useful detail:

I have been experimenting with a “MYANTENNA” 130 foot long “end-fed” with the 49:1 UNUN*

I replaced their 130 ft antenna wire with a heavier gauge #12 stranded insulated wire (I had a few hundred feet).*

This is classified as a ONE-HALF wavelength antenna on 80m, hence the need for the 49:1 UNUN to transform 50 ohm (coax) to a few thousand ohms*

It has resonances on the other ham bands (harmonically related) but I wanted it mostly for 80m.

One leg runs about 60 ft horizontally to a tree and then the next 70 ft makes a 90 degree bend (to fit into my yard) still horizontal.*

At this time I removed a 15 ft “counterpoise” wire on the GND side of the UNUN.

I will try it later this week (after the snow) as a “sloper” or an Inverted V up to a tall fir tree.

It is only about 20 ft above ground now (with 4 inches snow) for NVIS prop, and fed with 70 ft of RG213 coax (50 ohm) with a RF choke on the coax feed line 10 ft from UNUN (the counterpoise?) and another RF choke just as the coax enters the shack.

His VSWR curve is interesting, a minimum at source end of about 1.32 @ 3.66MHz as built and measured.

Minimum VSWR is about 1.32 @ 3.66MHz. Continue reading K3EUI’s MyAntennas EFHW on 80m